Sinus 1watt PLL
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Sinus 1watt PLL
Here is my version of the NRG/PIRA drive board! if built correctly? the stability is excellent!
The PCB dimentions are 146mm x 60mm! if anyone has any questions please dont hesitate to ask!
Happy building and good luck!!
1 WATT PLL DRIVE BOARD PARTS LIST
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R1 = 1K - BROWN,BLACK,RED
R2 = YELLOW,PURPLE,RED
R3 = 10K - BROWN,BLACK,ORANGE
R4 = 10K - BROWN,BLACK,ORANGE
R5 = 10K - BROWN,BLACK,ORANGE
R6 = 1K (FOR PIC LOCK STATE AND NOT NEEDED)
R7 = 10K - BROWN,BLACK,ORANGE
R8 = 6K8 - BLUE,GREY,RED
R9 = 6K8 - BLUE,GREY,RED
R10 = 33K - ORANGE,ORANGE,ORANGE
R11 = 82K - GREY,RED,ORANGE
R12 = 56 - GREEN,BLUE,BLACK
R13 = 56 - GREEN,BLUE,BLACK
R14 =82K - GREY,RED,ORANGE
R15 = 220 - RED,RED,BROWN
R16 = 47 - YELLOW,PURPLE,BLACK
R17 = 5K - GREEN,BLACK,RED
C1 = 222 CERAMIC
C2 = 103 CERAMIC
C3 = 47UF ELECTROLYTIC
C4 = 10UF TANTALUM
C5 = 0.47UF ELECTROLYTIC
C6 = 104 CERAMIC
C7 = 102 CERAMIC
C8 = 220UF ELECTROLYTIC
C9 = 103 CERAMIC
C10 = 22 CERAMIC
C11 = 104 CERAMIC
C12 = 222 CERAMIC
C13 = 47 CERAMIC (CHANGED TO 33 CERAMIC FOR FULL TUNING RANGE)
C14 = 22 CERAMIC
C15 = 33 CERAMIC
C16 = 33 CERAMIC
C17 = 102 CERAMIC
C18 = 102 CERAMIC
C19 = 1NF 102 CERAMIC
C20 = 10NF 103 CERAMIC
C21 = 220UF ELECTROLYTIC
C22 = 22 CERAMIC
C23 = 102 CERAMIC
C24 = 102 CERAMIC
C25 = 101 CERAMIC
C26 = 10 CERAMIC
C27 = 10UF ELECTROLYTIC (CHANGED TO 0.47UF FOR PLL STABILITY)
VC1 = PURPLE TRIMMER
VC2 = YELLOW TRIMMER
VC3 = YELLOW TRIMMER
VC4 = YELLOW TRIMMER
IC1 = SAA1057
IC2 = PIC16F84
IC3 = 78L05
TR1 = BF199
TR2 = BF199
TR3 = 2N4427
D1 = 1N4001
L1 = 6X 2 TURN 5MM INT DIA
L2 = 4 TURN 6.2MM INT DIA
L3 = U SHAPE LINK (NOT USED)
L4 = 12 TURN ENAMEL COIL 4MM INT DIA
L5 = 5 TURN 5MM INT DIA
J1 = WIRE LINK
J2 = WIRE LINK
J3 = WIRE LINK
J4 = WIRE LINK (NOT USED)
J5 = WIRE LINK (NOT USED)
The PCB dimentions are 146mm x 60mm! if anyone has any questions please dont hesitate to ask!
Happy building and good luck!!
1 WATT PLL DRIVE BOARD PARTS LIST
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R1 = 1K - BROWN,BLACK,RED
R2 = YELLOW,PURPLE,RED
R3 = 10K - BROWN,BLACK,ORANGE
R4 = 10K - BROWN,BLACK,ORANGE
R5 = 10K - BROWN,BLACK,ORANGE
R6 = 1K (FOR PIC LOCK STATE AND NOT NEEDED)
R7 = 10K - BROWN,BLACK,ORANGE
R8 = 6K8 - BLUE,GREY,RED
R9 = 6K8 - BLUE,GREY,RED
R10 = 33K - ORANGE,ORANGE,ORANGE
R11 = 82K - GREY,RED,ORANGE
R12 = 56 - GREEN,BLUE,BLACK
R13 = 56 - GREEN,BLUE,BLACK
R14 =82K - GREY,RED,ORANGE
R15 = 220 - RED,RED,BROWN
R16 = 47 - YELLOW,PURPLE,BLACK
R17 = 5K - GREEN,BLACK,RED
C1 = 222 CERAMIC
C2 = 103 CERAMIC
C3 = 47UF ELECTROLYTIC
C4 = 10UF TANTALUM
C5 = 0.47UF ELECTROLYTIC
C6 = 104 CERAMIC
C7 = 102 CERAMIC
C8 = 220UF ELECTROLYTIC
C9 = 103 CERAMIC
C10 = 22 CERAMIC
C11 = 104 CERAMIC
C12 = 222 CERAMIC
C13 = 47 CERAMIC (CHANGED TO 33 CERAMIC FOR FULL TUNING RANGE)
C14 = 22 CERAMIC
C15 = 33 CERAMIC
C16 = 33 CERAMIC
C17 = 102 CERAMIC
C18 = 102 CERAMIC
C19 = 1NF 102 CERAMIC
C20 = 10NF 103 CERAMIC
C21 = 220UF ELECTROLYTIC
C22 = 22 CERAMIC
C23 = 102 CERAMIC
C24 = 102 CERAMIC
C25 = 101 CERAMIC
C26 = 10 CERAMIC
C27 = 10UF ELECTROLYTIC (CHANGED TO 0.47UF FOR PLL STABILITY)
VC1 = PURPLE TRIMMER
VC2 = YELLOW TRIMMER
VC3 = YELLOW TRIMMER
VC4 = YELLOW TRIMMER
IC1 = SAA1057
IC2 = PIC16F84
IC3 = 78L05
TR1 = BF199
TR2 = BF199
TR3 = 2N4427
D1 = 1N4001
L1 = 6X 2 TURN 5MM INT DIA
L2 = 4 TURN 6.2MM INT DIA
L3 = U SHAPE LINK (NOT USED)
L4 = 12 TURN ENAMEL COIL 4MM INT DIA
L5 = 5 TURN 5MM INT DIA
J1 = WIRE LINK
J2 = WIRE LINK
J3 = WIRE LINK
J4 = WIRE LINK (NOT USED)
J5 = WIRE LINK (NOT USED)
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Re: Sinus 1watt PLL
Nice work and thanks for sharing.
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Re: Sinus 1watt PLL
What do you predict the component / build cost is of the above? Out of interest really.
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£20 or less. Depends where you get the components from, and what you already have at hand.
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Re: Sinus 1watt PLL
Yeah it doesn't cost much for the parts, you also need the basic stuff to build the PCB's but again that's not expensive.
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Most expensive parts would be 2n4427 and saa1057. But total cost must be under 20£... with homemade board ofcourse
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Yeah id say around 20 quid! Dutch RF shop have all the parts needed at a good price!
It actually takes more time and skills than money to build! its not complicated but you need to take into account
that the PIC needs to be programmed and the PCB needs to be processed!
Tuning and setup is simple too!
Firstly DIP switch is set to required frequency!
Then VC1 is trimmed until chosen frequecy is reached!
PLL tuning voltage can be monitored via R8 using a multimeter! (between 3 and 4 volts is best)
Finaly tune VC2,3 and 4 for maximum forward power using a SWR meter!
Sorted!!
It actually takes more time and skills than money to build! its not complicated but you need to take into account
that the PIC needs to be programmed and the PCB needs to be processed!
Tuning and setup is simple too!
Firstly DIP switch is set to required frequency!
Then VC1 is trimmed until chosen frequecy is reached!
PLL tuning voltage can be monitored via R8 using a multimeter! (between 3 and 4 volts is best)
Finaly tune VC2,3 and 4 for maximum forward power using a SWR meter!
Sorted!!
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Oh and the parts list is accurate but i did forget a thing or two!
X1 = 4Mhz crystal
FB1 = 5 turns on a 4mm ferrite bead
And J4 is used on this version of the board!
X1 = 4Mhz crystal
FB1 = 5 turns on a 4mm ferrite bead
And J4 is used on this version of the board!
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This is what it should look like
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Re: Sinus 1watt PLL
Just to add, one of caps on 4MHz crystal could be changed with small 40pF trimmer to set reference frequency. With good frequency meter, you can set carrier to be in fm standard range of +-500Hz from nominal frequency
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Re: Sinus 1watt PLL
Sinus, did you find they work better using the double sided board?
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I think you are using J5 as well, otherwise you wouldn't have any power to the 5V regulator.sinus trouble wrote:And J4 is used on this version of the board!
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Erm? Not really a huge difference with double sided? Had a very small increase in output power and a little less noise on the PLL too!teckniqs wrote:Sinus, did you find they work better using the double sided board?
Harmonics could possibly be suppressed more with the double sided? But that hasnt been tested?
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Re: Sinus 1watt PLL
I've always prefer double sided and seen a few PLL's that definitely prefer being on it. Your double sided job looks neat and another job well done.
....I'm surprised NRG didn't sell something like this!
....I'm surprised NRG didn't sell something like this!
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Sorry Dai! the layout diagram is from the first version i made and has not been updated!Dai Pole wrote:I think you are using J5 as well, otherwise you wouldn't have any power to the 5V regulator.sinus trouble wrote:And J4 is used on this version of the board!
The PCB has had some modifications (PLL moved inline with the VFO and some links removed) but the components are unchanged!
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Actually mate, I should apologise, I had already seen that you altered it on your PCB artwork, but was referring to the layout picture whilst working in Eagle and it slipped my mind - my mistake!sinus trouble wrote:Sorry Dai! the layout diagram is from the first version i made and has not been updated!Dai Pole wrote:I think you are using J5 as well, otherwise you wouldn't have any power to the 5V regulator.sinus trouble wrote:And J4 is used on this version of the board!
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Cheers geez! i agree! double sided defo has its benefits and its worth the little extra effort!teckniqs wrote:I've always prefer double sided and seen a few PLL's that definitely prefer being on it. Your double sided job looks neat and another job well done.
....I'm surprised NRG didn't sell something like this!
I think with NRG they were oldskool and always seemed to avoid using PICs! i even noticed when reading alberts old posts! He didnt seem to be fan of the PIC approach either? even though he is probly well clued up on them?
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Lol no worries Dai!! I do seriously need to update it though! its pretty poor by todays standards! lol
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Re: Sinus 1watt PLL
Doing RF = Using double sided PCB
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sorry if this is a dumb question here , how do I download the project, I can see the post has an attatchment but cant see how to get to it. I am presuming it contains all the diagrams and code for the pic