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Re: 1/4 wave coax vertical dipole

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:25 pm
by sharky
No worries, i was interested on the performance :)

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:29 pm
by pjeva
Regarding performance, it's very good for double stacked dipole. Good match to 50ohm output. Bad side of this, it is more complicated for installation, since it must be insude pvc pipe and isolated from boom and lambda section or mast. Not very rugged construction i must say. This goes in favour of gamma match since it is fully grounded (only gamma match part is "hot").
Word of advice, if you have good quality cable (like i used) and you know exact velocity factor, this is very easy-build antenna

Re: 1/4 wave coax vertical dipole

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:03 pm
by Dan
Sharky if i remove the folded back sheath and replace with a copper tube, can it be the same length as the center core, like on a center fed dipole ? and does the tube go over the coax to act like the reversed sheath ?

Re: 1/4 wave coax vertical dipole

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:06 pm
by teckniqs
Yes it can, the bottom element of an end fed unipole isn't so critical, it's the top element that is. I've messed around with bazooka end fed dipoles many years ago and I found it didn't matter too much on the length of the ground element.

Re: 1/4 wave coax vertical dipole

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:18 pm
by Dan
ok cool, so should i cut the sheath off and replace with a copper element ? and then use the same measurement for center fed on the top half, or is the measurement slightly different ?

Re: 1/4 wave coax vertical dipole

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:44 am
by teckniqs
I found the top element to vary slightly from the calculated length, start with it a little longer and work your way down.

Re: 1/4 wave coax vertical dipole

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:30 pm
by Dan
can I use an aluminium tube or does it have to be copper ? cant find any 12mm copper tubes to fit perfectly over the coax. RG213

Re: 1/4 wave coax vertical dipole

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:59 pm
by teckniqs
You can use either.

1/4 wave coax vertical dipole

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:59 pm
by pjeva
I'm not sure what design we are talking about, but i think that sleeve should not fit perfectly over coax. It should be wider

And aluminium cannot be soldered to coax, so it is better to use copper

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Re: 1/4 wave coax vertical dipole

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:12 pm
by Dan
talking about the first design (sharky). Iv left the braid on and just slid the element over the entire bottom half, would this work the same or would the braid need to be removed?

Re: 1/4 wave coax vertical dipole

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:08 pm
by sharky
Sorry for the late reply, I ve been dodging redundancy at work, just !!
Dan wrote:talking about the first design (sharky). Iv left the braid on and just slid the element over the entire bottom half, would this work the same or would the braid need to be removed?
Should be fine as long as you have a good connection between the two..
I used RG213 for the last one, and 28mm copper slid over the bottom element.
For the complete build I used a 2m length of overflow ( 21.5mm ) ran the cable through it, folded the braid over the top then the 28mm over the top.. Very tight fit!!
I'm off on Wed & Thurs so i'll post a few pics up with the parts i used.

I might have got the pipe diameter out slightly, i'll have to check.
Working in a plumbers merchant helps !!