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Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:34 pm
by Electronically
Albert before nrg kits and Veronica kits was born was there any company's selling transmitters before Veronica and nrg kitz I know ramsay was about then who else!
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Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:18 am
by sinus trouble
Electronically wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:34 pm
Albert before nrg kits and Veronica kits was born was there any company's selling transmitters before Veronica and nrg kitz I know ramsay was about then who else!
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Depends on what you call a transmitter?
Velleman, Pantek, Stentor, Radio Berkley, just a few! Even BW was around that time?
There was many designs around just not available until the internet, Unless you had some good contacts?
From experience? The first pirate 'Pro Rigs' i saw were from a builder by the name of 'Z'
Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:35 am
by Albert H
There were lots of people building rigs for stations. In the earliest times, I built rigs just for my own station. Medium Wave at first, then FM later. All my early gear used valves!
A few years later I built a few rigs for other stations, and charged them for the parts and a bit for my time. Eventually, I had several stations asking for gear, and so a small production facility began. There was three of us - all with full-time engineering jobs - but during evenings and weekends we'd get together a build gear for various stations. We began to make a lot of money from this, and eventually I quit my main job, and began a communications company (which I still partly own to this day).
I mostly gave up building for pirates when the big money got involved in the early 90s. The "rave" scene was taking off, and every event wanted to broadcast to advertise themselves. Some very unpleasant characters got involved at that time, so I thought that I'd stay well out of it. That turned out to be a very good decision, with all the things that went on.....
Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:02 am
by yellowbeard
Back in the 80's we used to get all our stuff from Amsterdam, I.P.S. and Asian electronics are two sources I remember. We got their details from FRM magazine, there was a couple of issues we had that were well thumbed like a porn mag but not as sticky. You could get a 50 Watt VFO boxed up and delivered for under £200 - PLL cost another £50. That was savage money back then. They did the stentor 5 Watt in a kit for £25 and a range of amplifier kits for 30-50 Watts that were good value - just add a CB power supply and a biscuit tin and you were away. It's good to see that our Dutch buddies are still keeping it up, it is their tradition and heritage.

Re: RE: Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:06 am
by Electronically
sinus trouble wrote:Electronically wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:34 pm
Albert before nrg kits and Veronica kits was born was there any company's selling transmitters before Veronica and nrg kitz I know ramsay was about then who else!
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Depends on what you call a transmitter?
Velleman, Pantek, Stentor, Radio Berkley, just a few! Even BW was around that time?
There was many designs around just not available until the internet, Unless you had some good contacts?
From experience? The first pirate 'Pro Rigs' i saw were from a builder by the name of 'Z'
I mind radio Berkley and broadcast warehouse and quazer electronics did 88-108 and smart kits. I couldn't remember all this till you mentioned some there good shout sinus. They were no bad back in the day.
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Re: RE: Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:07 am
by Electronically
Albert H wrote:There were lots of people building rigs for stations. In the earliest times, I built rigs just for my own station. Medium Wave at first, then FM later. All my early gear used valves!
A few years later I built a few rigs for other stations, and charged them for the parts and a bit for my time. Eventually, I had several stations asking for gear, and so a small production facility began. There was three of us - all with full-time engineering jobs - but during evenings and weekends we'd get together a build gear for various stations. We began to make a lot of money from this, and eventually I quit my main job, and began a communications company (which I still partly own to this day).
I mostly gave up building for pirates when the big money got involved in the early 90s. The "rave" scene was taking off, and every event wanted to broadcast to advertise themselves. Some very unpleasant characters got involved at that time, so I thought that I'd stay well out of it. That turned out to be a very good decision, with all the things that went on.....
I saw valve ones back in the day was tempted to get one back then. Medium wave are they still around?
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Re: RE: Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:11 am
by Electronically
yellowbeard wrote:Back in the 80's we used to get all our stuff from Amsterdam, I.P.S. and Asian electronics are two sources I remember. We got their details from FRM magazine, there was a couple of issues we had that were well thumbed like a porn mag but not as sticky. You could get a 50 Watt VFO boxed up and delivered for under £200 - PLL cost another £50. That was savage money back then. They did the stentor 5 Watt in a kit for £25 and a range of amplifier kits for 30-50 Watts that were good value - just add a CB power supply and a biscuit tin and you were away. It's good to see that our Dutch buddies are still keeping it up, it is their tradition and heritage.

Good shout yellowbeard I remember there was a magazine which got posted out with kits and schematics to send a cheque away in the post for it. Then you get your kit. I remember there was 12 Watts and 20watts and 30 watt and 50 watt and 75 Watts couldn't mind the magine but was from Amsterdam. Porn sticky pages that made me laugh your right there lol
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Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:23 am
by Electronically
I remember a builder used to put a big red marker X across the white output chip they were good builds think back then he used to call himself Mr x back in the day can't mind. Anyone remember him?
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Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:56 am
by RF-Head
Most a the Amsterdam designs in the 80s were designed by my father and sold by many shops round Amsterdam
Our company had the name stentor

but after many poroblems changed to a other name.
I still have some old FRM asian PCB's in my webshop ( i still have the original layouts)
We made 1000s PCB, Modules and complete rigs in the years
I will look for some photo's of the old FRM transmitters if all good i still have them here.
But now lots i changed and al our designs are in SMT and no-tune but is still like the good old 80s designs with normal components and wound coils and yellow philips trimmers
https://www.hf-electronics.nl/Diverse-Printen
Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:30 pm
by radium98
i have the pll of smart kit 1144 , i will post a picture later
Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:35 pm
by teckniqs
I don't think B.W were around before Veronica/NRG as I remember Veronica advertising rigs in DJ magazine back in 1993 time when the guy's behind B.W were still building for pirates. I think B.W started in 1998.
Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:41 pm
by sinus trouble
teckniqs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:35 pm
I don't think B.W were around before Veronica/NRG as I remember Veronica advertising rigs in DJ magazine back in 1993 time when the guy's behind B.W were still building for pirates. I think B.W started in 1998.
You could be right there Teck? No doubt the engineers behind BW were on the scene already.
BW was more of a web based concept?
Just out of interest? When did you first find Bowman?
I got my first internet connection around 96/97 from what i can remember? Which is when i found most of these people, A site named 'Geocities' I think? lol
Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:12 am
by radium98
sinus trouble wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:41 pm
teckniqs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:35 pm
I don't think B.W were around before Veronica/NRG as I remember Veronica advertising rigs in DJ magazine back in 1993 time when the guy's behind B.W were still building for pirates. I think B.W started in 1998.
You could be right there Teck? No doubt the engineers behind BW were on the scene already.
BW was more of a web based concept?
Just out of interest? When did you first find Bowman?
I got my first internet connection around 96/97 from what i can remember? Which is when i found most of these people, A site named 'Geocities' I think? lol
i remember this too . amasing nostalgia
Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:29 pm
by LeeCavanagh
I do remember the 4watt Pantec hobby kit, ha, what a joke that piece of utter rubbish was, VFO, that would change frequency if you opened a door or a window, or happened to be stood on one leg !!!
Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:13 pm
by teckniqs
LeeCavanagh wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:29 pm
I do remember the 4watt Pantec hobby kit, ha, what a joke that piece of utter rubbish was, VFO, that would change frequency if you opened a door or a window, or happened to be stood on one leg !!!
Haha yeah I got given one of those things but just took the parts off and used them for other things. It used 2x 2n3553 as both the oscllator and as the final!

Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:10 pm
by radium98
hahah my begening was it and i burn handreds of dollars for 2n3553 , once i bought 20 philips 2n3553 real
and parallel them and oh lala they go to heaven at once .
Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:32 pm
by yellowbeard
Dat pantek is a power oscillator and the antenna is coupled to the tuned circuit that determines the frequency via a coil, there is no buffer and that is part of its problem. It can be tamed to a degree, but it is only a toy - for instance standing next to it having a wank is good fun.
The best use for them was as a burglar alarm, if someone walked down the room, it would walk down the band. Speaking of shite - I see smartkit is still going
https://www.smartkit.gr
They been selling the same transmitters all along since the 80's - good for them!

Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:01 am
by radium98
https://i.imgur.com/26Wlw0O.png
smart kit toy.
this is smart pll and vco
Re: Before Veronica and nrg kits was born
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:02 pm
by radium98
sk 1144 - sk1187 vco and pll smart