Compressor/Limiter

XXL · Post by **XXL** » Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:20 pm

Can anyone help with stereo tools. I’m constantly fighting with the audio to keep it at a constant level, but one track can be very loud and another very low. Iv tried the bs124 or whatever Fm limiter but it just sounds so unatural. Is there a setting to pull up low audio but very slowly ?

mpx · Post by **mpx** » Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:11 pm

Check the AGC settings, sounds like the threshold is too low.

reverend · Post by **reverend** » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:13 pm

There are lots of built-in settings in Stereotool. Might be worth starting by trying these and then modifying them to get the sound you want.

Rev

Electronically · Post by **Electronically** » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:39 pm

XXL wrote:Can anyone help with stereo tools. I’m constantly fighting with the audio to keep it at a constant level, but one track can be very loud and another very low. Iv tried the bs124 or whatever Fm limiter but it just sounds so unatural. Is there a setting to pull up low audio but very slowly ?

Reason some sounds are very low is when songs are recorded on cd, the recording is lower than the original is the reason why it's lower.

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Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:48 pm

It’s taken me about 10 years to figure out all of the settings.

Let me know and I’ll send you a sts file that’ll make your station louder than radio 1

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Rfdiva · Post by **Rfdiva** » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:40 pm

Maxim7s can you send me .sts for sa to try .thanks .i have last version.

Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:44 pm

Here ya go. You might need to turn a few things down. It's a really aggressive preset.

LeeCavanagh · Post by **LeeCavanagh** » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:15 pm

I still prefer Breakaway Broadcast (which also has stereo and RDS encoding)

sinus trouble · Post by **sinus trouble** » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:27 pm

Hello XXL

Forgive me if this sounds condescending, I am not at all questioning you ability.

An important thing to note is that a Compressor, Hardware or software can only do so much.

Most of my digital media is recorded in realtime from vinyl singles and each one is obviously different.

Getting the headroom correct without clipping is an absolute pain in ass!! But it has to be done!

Good luck!

XXL · Post by **XXL** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:16 pm

Maximus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:48 pm It’s taken me about 10 years to figure out all of the settings.

Let me know and I’ll send you a sts file that’ll make your station louder than radio 1

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Its not all about loudness. Squashed, Brick walled music actually makes me tune out. Its nasty. Slight compression to make it sound "Fat" is nice but not brick walled. It needs dynamic, but with volume control for audio that just stays low.

it needs to reach a target volume for audio that just isnt loud enough, otherwise you'll end up with low mod.

Bton-FM · Post by **Bton-FM** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:36 pm

XXL wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:16 pm
Maximus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:48 pm It’s taken me about 10 years to figure out all of the settings.

Let me know and I’ll send you a sts file that’ll make your station louder than radio 1

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Its not all about loudness. Squashed, Brick walled music actually makes me tune out. Its nasty. Slight compression to make it sound "Fat" is nice but not brick walled. It needs dynamic, but with volume control for audio that just stays low.

it needs to reach a target volume for audio that just isnt loud enough, otherwise you'll end up with low mod.

I totally agree. When I look at the wave-forms of some of the latest 'drum and bass' tracks (wank jump up tracks) it's clear that they have smashed the track with compression. Everything is clipped and there are no dynamics!!

Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:19 pm

BBP is good as well. I’d say there’s a 50% divide on the forum as to who uses BBP or ST.

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Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:17 am

Just remembered Omnia also have their own software which I think was a collaboration with one of the Dutch guys.

I couldn’t get on with it myself but I’ve heard good things about the micro-mpx software which allows you to send a proper 192khz multiplex down a lowish bandwidth data connection.

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XXL · Post by **XXL** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:26 am

@Bton-FM

Tbf, the latest jump up drum and bass isn’t even music anymore. It’s
just loads of noises over a drum beat.

thewisepranker · Post by **thewisepranker** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:39 am

Hasn't jump up been like that for about 2 decades?

reverend · Post by **reverend** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:40 pm

Maximus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:44 pm Here ya go. You might need to turn a few things down. It's a really aggressive preset.

Whoa! I get so much clipping on that, that it hurts. So much use of the Natural Dynamics too.

Try this one... https://gofile.io/d/0OeCUN

It will get you close to 11 dBr for most content. It comes with a health warning though, it's very fatiguing!

Rev

sinus trouble · Post by **sinus trouble** » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:19 am

Just to confirm XXL?

Your problem is not with the artists mastering process of tracks? Its consistency of overall volume levelling?

If you are dealing with just playlists? I suggest that you put in the work previously to ensure tracks are level
before broadcast.

If you are 'Going live' with unpredictable tracks? A part of a DJs duties is to trim track gain during 'Cueing' (Thats why most mixers have preview VU meters) The compressor will save you from any slight mistakes.

Either way? A bit of preparation can make the processing so much easier!

sinus trouble · Post by **sinus trouble** » Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:02 am

Just to add

With regards to ST which i have only used briefly? I suspect that there is no 'Magic Button' to solve all your problems.

As Maximus wrote "It took 10 yrs to get it right" What may be right for him? May not be right for you!

I would be confident to bet that if you searched for perfect sound? You would get no definitive result!
It does not exist!

If you can provide listeners with quality music as the artist intended, You are doing something right!

Polecat · Post by **Polecat** » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:11 am

Well said Sinus. Set your levels for each track as you cue up and make minor adjustments as you broadcast. Compression will save you from the odd overload but wont correct massive variances in levels.

radium98 · Post by **radium98** » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:36 am

mp3gain