How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

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How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

Post by ehsanspicedigital » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:01 pm

Hello lads. Hope your all doin well. I’ve got one of these transmitter boxes made by a well known rig builder ;). just wanted to ask if anyone knows how to accurately tune the frequency on this unit. I think it’s somewhere in the driver box, but i don’t know exactly what to do in there. If someone could please guide me it’d be extremely appreciated. Thanks
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Re: How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

Post by Frequent Lee » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:46 pm

They are locked to one frequency, the driver will need the pic chip replaced with one programmed to the frequency of choice and the ppl lock can adjusted also the amp will need to be returned to match the new frequency so the output isn't mismatched.
If you're Yorkshire based that rig will have come via me originally as I was the only person in the north dealing with that builder.

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Post by ehsanspicedigital » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:23 pm

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Post by teckniqs » Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:27 am

Ooops... :dgo :eow
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Post by ehsanspicedigital » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:48 am

How did this happen!!

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Post by teckniqs » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:11 pm

I have no idea, all I know was the SWR on their aerial was fine and not the cause.
.... I was given that board by someone from London to repair, but it was as you can see knackered, amazingly though both of the transistors still worked so they were removed for use on another fresh board.
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Re: How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

Post by rigmo » Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:55 pm

lighting or hiSWR

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Post by ehsanspicedigital » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:41 am

i’ve seen a few mishaps with this board in specific and now i’m questioning what could cause this! Could it be a board defect in certain PCB’s not being made up to standard or something to do with the components on the board not being rated for the power output? Or even using incorrectly rated FET’s trying to achieve a higher output power with a board that isn’t rated for that power? would be interesting to find the cause of this mishap!

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Re: How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

Post by EFR » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:56 am

Small flashover did make an carbonpath to an pcb top layer, and after that RF skin effekt keeps it burning?
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Re: How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

Post by pukje62 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:42 pm

Can you post picture from open driver box ???

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Post by teckniqs » Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:29 pm

pukje62 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:42 pm Can you post picture from open driver box ???
I've got one here so here you go....
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Re: How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

Post by pukje62 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:24 pm

Aha thanks, i see a header connector are these pins connected to the PIC ?? (special pins 12 and 13 at the PIC ??)

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Re: How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

Post by Frequent Lee » Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:56 pm

teckniqs wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:29 pm
pukje62 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:42 pm Can you post picture from open driver box ???
I've got one here so here you go....

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It's not that revision in the box he's posted. It's the earlier one with a 12c508 pic chip.

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Post by teckniqs » Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:34 pm

Frequent Lee wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:56 pm

It's not that revision in the box he's posted. It's the earlier one with a 12c508 pic chip.
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Re: How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

Post by radium98 » Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:54 am

seems to me blf244 and sd1477 ? or am i wrong .
Is the white trimpot 10k or 1k?

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Post by teckniqs » Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:44 pm

radium98 wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:54 am seems to me blf244 and sd1477 ? or am i wrong .
SD1407 (designed for HF band up to 30MHz but work great on FM Band II with a lot more drive)

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Post by teckniqs » Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:45 pm

radium98 wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:54 am seems to me blf244 and sd1477 ? or am i wrong .
SD1407 - designed for HF band up to 30MHz but work great on FM Band II with a lot more drive. There is also a version designed for FM broadcast band SD1460

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Re: How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

Post by Albert H » Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:01 pm

Wow! That PA's a "blast from the past"! Back in the mid-80s, when I ran out of the ridiculously cheap aircraft transistors I was using for my PAs, I tried exactly that line-up of the '244 into the '1407, because I had lots of them. Roger H visited one evening to beg some driver transistors from me, and saw the first PCB version of that board. He bought one from me, because (he said) he "needed to get a rig together quickly". Two months later, those PAs started turning up in his rigs....

I abandoned the design, because it became expensive to make, and wasn't particularly efficient. I moved to using the TRW TP93XX devices - loads of gain, and really robust! Shortly afterwards, the first of the Motorola FETs became available (MRF150) and Thomson CSF started their FET series (I favoured the SRF1616). At that point, I could do away with a stage - the gain of the FETs meant that 2 - 5 Watts of drive would be enough for 300 - 500 Watts output!
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Re: How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

Post by Maximus » Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:43 pm

Did you get struck by lightning lol
teckniqs wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:27 am Ooops... :dgo :eow

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Did you get struck by lightning lol

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Re: How to change the frequency on one of these transmitter boxes.

Post by teckniqs » Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:57 pm

Maximus wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:43 pm Did you get struck by lightning lol
teckniqs wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:27 am Ooops... :dgo :eow

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Did you get struck by lightning lol
i am not 100% sure what happened as it was only given to me in a rig to take a look about 10 years ago or so but wasn't mine.

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